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  • Can a samyagdrishti jeev get intense kashay? Can a samyagdrishti jeev get anantanubandhi kashay? In detail
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    Can a samyagdrishti jeev get intense kashay? Can a samyagdrishti jeev get anantanubandhi kashay? In detail

    7 months ago 103

    Answering in line with standard Jain karma-siddhānt (mainly Tattvārtha-sūtra and its commentaries), accepted by both Digambar and Shvetāmbara:

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    1. Can a samyagdrashti jīva get intense kaṣhāya?

    Here we must be precise what “intense” means, because in Jain philosophy the four kaṣhāya (krodh, mān, māyā, lobh) are divided into four intensities:

    1. Anantānubandhī – the most intense, soul‑ruining form
    2. Apratyākhyānāvaraṇī
    3. Pratyākhyānāvaraṇī
    4. Saṁjvalanī – the mildest form, compatible with high levels of spiritual conduct

    So, “intense” can mean different things:

    (A) After true samyakdarshan has arisen

    A true samyagdrashti (one who has attained samyakdarshan, i.e. is in at least the 4th guṇasthān) has:

    • Destroyed:
    - Mithyātva-mohanīya (total wrong belief) - Mishra-mohanīya (mixed belief)
    • And cannot have:
    - Anantānubandhī charitra-mohanīya kaṣhāya (the topmost intense passions).

    Once samyakdarshan is attained:

    • Anantānubandhī kaṣhāya are not possible again.

    But the samyagdrashti:

    • Can still have:
    - Apratyākhyānāvaraṇī kaṣhāya (fairly strong; stops higher vows) - Pratyākhyānāvaraṇī kaṣhāya - Saṁjvalanī kaṣhāya (mild)

    So in simple words:

    • A samyagdrashti jīva can still get strong anger, pride, deceit, or greed in the sense of aprtyākhyānāvaraṇī or pratyākhyānāvaraṇī intensity.
    • But he cannot fall to the worst, soul‑destroying intensity called anantānubandhī.

    This is why we see in scriptures that:

    • A samyagdrashti household Jain may still commit serious faults, may get very angry, etc., but
    • If his samyakdarshan is real (not just verbal belief), he will never fall into the spiritual condition created by anantānubandhī kaṣhāya.

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    2. Can a samyagdrashti jīva get anantānubandhī kaṣhāya?

    No. By definition of the guṇasthāna system:

    • Anantānubandhī kaṣhāya are compatible with only the lowest stages (mithyātva etc.) and are fully opposed to samyakdarshan.
    • To attain samyakdarshan, the jīva must have already destroyed anantānubandhī kaṣhāya (and the relevant darshan-mohanīya karmas).

    Therefore:

    • A samyagdrashti cannot newly rise anantānubandhī kaṣhāya, and
    • As long as he remains samyagdrashti, those anantānubandhī forms do not come back.

    If such a jīva were to truly develop anantānubandhī kaṣhāya again, that would mean:

    • Loss of samyakdarshan, and
    • Fall back to mithyātva-guṇasthān (complete wrong belief).

    But classical Jain doctrine teaches that real samyakdarshan is very stable; it is not casually lost by one outburst. The disappearance of samyakdarshan involves a deep re‑emergence of wrong-belief karmas, not just “I shouted once.”

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    3. Why are anantānubandhī kaṣhāya impossible with samyakdarshan?

    Characteristics of anantānubandhī:

    • They block samyakdarshan in the present and also bind the karmas that will prevent samyakdarshan for a very long time in the future.
    • They are called “anantānubandhī” because they cause very long‑lasting bondage and deep spiritual downfall.

    Since:

    • Samyakdarshan = right faith, seeing the Tattvas correctly (soul, non‑soul, karma, moksha, etc.), and
    • Anantānubandhī kaṣhāya = that very passion‑state which destroys and blocks this right faith,

    the two states cannot coexist.

    So, the standard teaching is:

    • Before samyakdarshan: anantānubandhī kaṣhāya may exist and must be uprooted.
    • After samyakdarshan: anantānubandhī kaṣhāya do not arise again as long as samyakdarshan remains.

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    4. Digambar and Shvetāmbara perspective

    On this specific karma point, both traditions are essentially the same:

    • Both accept:
    - 28 mohanīya karmas, - division of kaṣhāya into four intensities, - 14 guṇasthāna ladder, - impossibility of anantānubandhī kaṣhāya in a samyagdrashti.

    Differences, where present, are more in terminology or small classificatory details, not in the main conclusion:

    • A samyagdrashti cannot have anantānubandhī kaṣhāya.
    • He can have lower‑grade passions, which are exactly what he has to keep purifying further on the path.

    You can also see a simple explanation of mohanīya karma and kaṣhāya here

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    In short

    1. Can a samyagdrashti jīva get intense kaṣhāya?

    - Yes, in the sense of non‑anantānubandhī strong passions (aprtyākhyānāvaraṇī / pratyākhyānāvaraṇī). - These disturb conduct but do not break samyakdarshan itself.

    1. Can a samyagdrashti jīva get anantānubandhī kaṣhāya?

    - No. - Anantānubandhī kaṣhāya and samyakdarshan are mutually incompatible. - To become samyagdrashti, the jīva must have already destroyed anantānubandhī forms of passions, and as long as samyakdarshan remains, they do not arise again.

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