It’s not fully clear what you mean by “the same” here.

Do you mean how to identify:

• Your Jain gotra / kul?
• Your Jain sangh / gacch / sampraday (sect)?
• Your Jati / caste?
• Or something else (like family’s original place, dev-dravya, etc.)?

If no elders are alive and no written information is available, then generally:

1. Check old documents

- Old property papers - School records of parents/grandparents - Marriage cards of relatives - Old letters or postcards Sometimes caste, gotra, or native place is written there.

1. Go to the local Jain temple where your family used to go

- Pujari / panditji / pathshala teacher may know your family background. - Many temples maintain member registers – old records may mention your family details.

1. Ask distant relatives / family friends / neighbours

- Even if close elders are not alive, sometimes neighbours or very old family friends know the community, caste, or sangh.

1. Look for old photos

- Photos with sadhus/sadhvijis, sangh yatras, or special poojas can give hints about which sampraday / panth your family followed (e.g. Terapanth, Tapagachch, Digambar, etc.).

1. If nothing at all is known

- From a Jain dharmic point of view, the most important thing is your aachar (conduct), shraddha (faith), and samyak darshan, not your label. - You can still follow Jain vows (vrat), panch parmeshthi, live ahimsa, do pratikraman, etc. - For many basic Jain practices, exact jati or gotra is not compulsory.

If you tell me what exactly you are trying to identify, I can guide you in a more precise Jain way (for example: rules for marriage, pooja, diksha tradition, etc.).