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  • People say that eating dahi is paap so they hot the dahi and eat it by killing lactobacilli bacterias but if we eat dahi directly, the bacteria are not killed and they remain in our intestines so shouldn't be eating dahi as normal will be less paap
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    People say that eating dahi is paap so they hot the dahi and eat it by killing lactobacilli bacterias but if we eat dahi directly, the bacteria are not killed and they remain in our intestines so shouldn't be eating dahi as normal will be less paap

    7 months ago 41

    Your logic is very sharp, and this is exactly the type of question Jain dharm tries to make us think about calmly.

    Let’s break it simply, in Jain view:

    1. Is dahi itself allowed in Jainism?

    • Traditionally, for shravaks (householders), fresh dahi made from freshly boiled milk, set and eaten the same day before sunset, is generally allowed in many Shwetambar families. ( jainknowledge.com)
    • Monks/nuns and stricter shravaks usually avoid all fermented items (curd, buttermilk, cheese, etc.) because of high microbial life and fermentation. ( jainknowledge.com)

    So, dahi is not automatically “paap” in shastra; it is allowed with conditions for laypeople and avoided at higher levels of saiyam.

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    2. “If we heat dahi and kill bacteria, is that less or more paap?”

    From Jain drishti, we see two main things:

    1. How much life is destroyed (quantity and level of jiv)

    - Bacteria in dahi are one‑sensed beings (ekendriya). Killing them is himsa, but less serious than killing animals (five‑sensed). - Eating dahi as it is: you are still causing destruction of those jiv in your body (acid, digestion, etc.). - Heating dahi to kill them outside the body also destroys them – the number destroyed may be similar in both cases. - So, from only the “count of dead bacteria” angle, neither is clearly “less paap”; both involve himsa of one‑sensed beings.

    1. Bhav (intention) and awareness

    - Jain dharm always sees dravyahimsa (physical) and bhavahimsa (mental) together. - If someone knowingly heats dahi exactly to kill and eats with a mind of carelessness towards jiv, the bhav can be worse. - If someone eats small quantity of fresh dahi, within limits, as per traditional niyam, with awareness that “this is a compromise of a grihasthi, I should not get attached to its taste”, the bhav is softer and more aligned with shastra‑permitted level.

    So, it is not as simple as: “uncooked = less paap, heated = more paap” or the opposite. Jainism evaluates both: amount of himsa and inner attitude.

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    3. “But if bacteria remain alive and go to intestine, is it better because we didn’t kill them?”

    Important subtle point:

    • Jiv that enter our body through food or air generally cannot survive long in that inner environment; digestion itself is a cause of their destruction.
    • So, even if you don’t heat the dahi outside, most bacteria will still die inside due to digestion – so himsa still happens, only at another place.
    • Jain dharm doesn’t say: “If killing happens inside your stomach it is fine, only outside is paap.” Himsa is himsa, wherever it occurs; for shravaks it is tolerated to a certain practical extent, but not called punya.

    Therefore, “letting them stay alive and go inside” is not really saving them; they are anyway being subjected to conditions where they will perish.

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    4. Then what is the Jain way to look at dahi?

    Very simply:

    1. Ideal (for sadhus / high saiyam)

    - Avoid dahi and all fermented items; avoid unnecessary multiplication of jiv.

    1. Practical allowance (for shravaks)

    - Many traditions allow: - Milk and freshly set curd, made from boiled milk, - Taken in limited quantity, - Same day, - Before sunset, - No over‑fermented, sour, or stored curd. ( jainknowledge.com) - During Paryushan, Chaturmas niyams, or special vows, even this is often stopped.

    1. Better vs. worse in everyday choices

    - Best: Avoid dahi altogether if you want to walk closer to monk‑like ahimsa. - If you still take dahi: - Take fresh, same‑day, limited quantiy. - Avoid mixing with many other things, avoid over‑fermented products (old curd, cheese, etc.). - Keep bhav of regretful necessity, not attachment.

    Whether you heat it only to “kill bacteria” or eat it raw – both involve himsa of one‑sensed beings. The clean Jain answer is:

    • For a serious sadhak, less dahi → less fermentation → less himsa → better.
    • For everyday grihasthi, follow niyam of your sampradaya / guru, eat simplest, and keep reducing such items with time.

    You can read a simple discussion on curd in Jainism here: Curd and Jain principles of ahimsa in food Another related Q&A on Jains eating curd despite bacteria is here: Why Jains do eat curd even if it has bacteria

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