1. When does a jīva feel like taking dīkṣā?

In Jain dharma, the deep, honest wish for dīkṣā usually comes when:

• Saṃvega (spiritual shock, inner shaking) arises
• Vairāgya (detachment from worldly pleasures & routines) arises
• There is some kṣayopśam (partial destruction + suppression) of mohaniya karma, so that the soul can see, “This saṃsār is meaningless and full of suffering; only dharma and self‑purification are truly worthwhile.”

So yes, the right kind of desire for dīkṣā is connected with the weakening (kṣayopśam) of cāritra‑mohaniya karma (conduct‑deluding karma) together with darśan‑mohaniya (belief‑deluding karma). Without some weakening of both, true stable vairāgya cannot arise.

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1. What about abhavya jīva taking dīkṣā?

Some important points (in simple terms):

• Bhavya jīva = one who can ultimately attain mokṣa in some birth.
• Abhavya jīva = one who will never attain mokṣa (according to Jain philosophy).

Can an abhavya jīva take external dīkṣā (wear monk/nun’s form, follow rules etc.)?

• Many Ācāryas say: Yes, it is possible that an abhavya may also formally take dīkṣā.
• But: such dīkṣā does not lead that soul to mokṣa in the future, because the deep potential for liberation is absent.

Karmic point:

• For anyone to feel even temporary vairāgya, there must be some kṣayopśam of mohaniya karma (otherwise only attachment and carelessness would dominate).
• So even an abhavya can have some kṣayopśam of cāritra‑mohaniya, enough to feel disgust for routine worldly life, enough to adopt good conduct.
• The difference is:

- Bhavya can go ahead, progress birth to birth, finally destroy mohaniya karma completely and become liberated. - Abhavya never reaches that final total destruction; their progress gets blocked at some stage.

So:

• Yes, abhavya jīvas can also experience some kṣayopśam of cāritra‑mohaniya and can even take dīkṣā.
• But their dīkṣā will not end in mokṣa.

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1. What is happening inside you? How does Jain dharma see this?

You wrote:

• You regularly saw an uncle at his shop.
• Suddenly you saw his death poster.
• It deeply shook you.
• You clearly saw the “pattern” of saṃsār:

> born → school/college → job/business → marry → children → run behind money for 30–40 years → die

• You felt: “This has no true purpose; I can’t take money or status with me to next birth.”
• You felt extreme sadness, thought of taking dīkṣā, and this feeling stayed for some days.

In Jain language, this is very clearly:

• Smṛti‑maraṇa anuprekṣā – contemplation on death and perishability
• Saṃsāra‑anityatā anuprekṣā – contemplation that worldly life is unstable and end‑bound
• Together, they create saṃvega and vairāgya

So, what would we call your feeling?

• Saṃvega – a deep inner shock that wakes the soul from worldly sleep.
• Bhav‑vairāgya – sincere inner detachment from the so‑called “normal life.”
• Samyak‑bhāvanā ka ārambh – the starting of right reflections.

Feeling sad in those days is natural. When mohaniya karma weakens slightly, the soul:

• Sees the truth of suffering in saṃsār,
• Feels pain seeing how everyone is running without true purpose,
• Feels, “What am I doing with this rare human birth?”

That pain, if guided correctly, becomes pure vairāgya, not depression.

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1. Is every wish for dīkṣā automatically pure and final?

Not always.

• Sometimes it is momentary emotion (difficult event, shock, insult, loss).
• Sometimes it is the beginning of a very deep, life‑changing vairāgya.

According to Jain āgamas and commentaries:

• For true dīkṣā leading towards mokṣa, there must be at least:

- weakening of anantānubandhi kaṣāya (very intense passions), - some degree of samyak darśan (right faith), - stable vairāgya, not just temporary sadness.

Your experience strongly resembles the initial awakening phase – a kind of first strong wave of saṃvega.

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1. What can you do with this feeling now? (Practical Jain way)

Instead of just remaining in sadness, Jain dharma would guide you to:

1. Protect this saṃvega

- Don’t ignore what you saw about saṃsār. - Gently remind yourself (anuprekṣā) that: - Death is certain, time is short. - Only śuddha ātmā and dharma go ahead with you.

1. Strengthen samyak darśan (right faith) and understanding

- Study basic Jain tattvas (soul, karma, saṃsār, mokṣa) in simple language. - Listen to pravachans of a right‑viewed Guru (samyak dṛṣṭi). - This converts raw sadness into clear, peaceful conviction.

1. Live as a sincere śrāvaka/śrāvikā (lay follower) right now

- Follow aṇu‑vratas (small vows) as much as possible: ahiṃsā, satya, asteya, brahmacharya, aparigraha (in your capacity). - Do daily pratikraman (even short / beginner level). - Reduce unnecessary desires, luxury, and attachment bit by bit. - Spend some time daily in samyik‑like calmness: reading, reflecting on anitya (impermanence), asara (unreliability of objects), saṃsār (cycle), and śaraṇa (refuge in Arihant, Siddha, Guru, Dharma).

1. Take guidance from a living Jain Guru

- Openly share what you felt (exactly as you wrote here). - A true Guru can tell you: - Is your vairāgya becoming stable? - What step is correct for you right now – more study, stricter lay conduct, or actual preparation for dīkṣā?

1. Understand that sadness can transform into śānti

- The first touch of truth hurts the ego and attachments – it feels like sorrow. - With dharma practice, the same insight becomes peace, fearlessness and clarity. - The goal is not to remain miserable but to become vītarāg‑oriented (moving towards non‑attachment).

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1. Short answer to your two main questions

• Q1: Does a jīva feel like taking dīkṣā because of kṣayopśam of cāritra‑mohaniya karma?

- Yes, genuine, dharma‑based desire for dīkṣā arises when mohaniya karma (especially cāritra‑mohaniya) gets somewhat weakened (kṣayopśam) along with darśan‑mohaniya. Then saṃvega and vairāgya become strong.

• Q2: When an abhavya jīva takes dīkṣā, do they also have kṣayopśam of cāritra‑mohaniya?

- Yes, to some extent. They can have kṣayopśam strong enough to feel vairāgya and behave as a monk/nun. - But: they never reach complete destruction of mohaniya karma and never attain mokṣa. Their dīkṣā remains only external / temporary from the ultimate (paramārth) view.

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Your inner shock, your seeing the emptiness of routine worldly life, your sadness, and your thought of dīkṣā – all these, from a Jain standpoint, are signs of awakening saṃvega and vairāgya.

Now your work is to protect and purify this feeling through:

• right understanding,
• right guidance from Guru,
• and steady practice as per your current capacity.

If you wish to read more in simple language on mohaniya karma, you can see: “What do you mean by mohaniya karma?”