how asangi jeev the karma particles attach to soul since they have no mind and secondly didnt asangi jeev have more advatnage since we need to win our mind for moksh
You are touching two slightly different points, so I’ll separate them and keep it simple.
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1. If soul is asangi (non‑attached), how do karmas (insentient) attach?
In Jain Darshan:
- Jeev (soul) in its pure real nature is:
- Karma is:
So how does attachment (bandh) happen?
a) Bandh is due to the soul’s own vibration and passion
Classic explanation:
- Bhava inside soul:
- Kashaya (anger, pride, deceit, greed) - Wrong belief, attachment–aversion This is called Bhava Āsrava & Bhava Bandh.
- Because of this disturbed state, the soul’s yoga (activity of body–speech–mind) vibrates.
- This vibration naturally attracts & holds suitable karmic pudgal.
- This is Dravya Āsrava & Dravya Bandh.
The karmic particles don’t “decide” to come – they have no mind. It is a natural law of relationship between:
> Vyākul (disturbed) soul-state + movement (yoga) → karmic pudgal sticks.
A common example given by acharyas:
- Like dust is lifeless, your body is lifeless, but
Similarly:
- Soul = body with “oily” kashaya & movement
- Karma pudgal = dust
So even though soul is asangi in its true nature, as long as it is in vikrit bhava (impure, passionate mode), karmas are said to “bind” with it from the vyavahar (worldly) standpoint.
In nishchay drashti: soul is always asang; in vyavahar drashti: we talk of karma‑bandh, sharir‑bandh etc.
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2. Do asangi / asamjñi jeev have “more advantage” because we must win the mind?
Here we must be clear what you mean by “asangi jeev”:
(A) If you mean “asamjñi jiva” – beings without mind
These are:
- One‑sensed, two‑sensed, three‑sensed, four‑sensed, and even some five‑sensed without developed mind.
- They don’t have mind, but they still have:
So:
- They cannot do:
- Scriptures clearly say:
So they do not have an advantage. They only have less gross thinking, but they are also incapable of real sadhana.
(B) If you mean “asangi” in the true nature sense
Yes, every jeev’s real nature is asang, shuddh, siddh‑swarup. But:
- That potential does not become experience until:
- Merely being metaphysically “asangi by nature” does not mean you are close to moksha in practice.
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3. Then why do we talk so much about “winning the mind”?
Because from the practical path (sadhana‑marg):
- Mind is the main channel through which:
- To stop Bhava Asrava, you must:
- So “winning the mind” really means:
Therefore:
- Asamjñi jiva:
- Human with mind:
So, having a mind does not put us at a disadvantage spiritually; it gives us the only platform from which moksha‑marg can truly be walked.
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Very short summary:
- Karma is jada pudgal; it binds not by its will, but by natural law when the soul is disturbed by kashaya and yoga.
- Every jeev is asang in real nature, but practically bound due to its own impure bhavas.
- Asamjñi (mindless) jivas do not have more advantage; only humans with mind and right use of it can attain moksha.