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I will do this in two parts:
- First, put your incidents in a clear timeline.
- Then, answer: “What is all this? Do I have samyaktva?” from Jain dharma, in detail.
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1. Your life incidents – arranged as a timeline
About 15 years ago – the Ludo / friendship incident
- You were playing Ludo with a close friend.
- You lost the game and, out of anger, deliberately damaged his board (coating came off more).
- You trusted he would not tell anyone.
- Next day you went again to play. His grandmother scolded you and asked if you had damaged it.
- Out of shame you lied and said “No”.
- She called your friend; he honestly pointed to you. You were shocked and felt betrayed.
- She asked if she should take money from your grandfather. You said “No” and left, embarrassed and hurt.
- After this:
- Later, he even falsely accused you of abusing his grandfather to a class teacher, and you were beaten.
- Though he tried many times to reconcile, talk, and repair the friendship, you refused to forgive and kept hatred and ego.
- Only recently you realized:
- You meditated, accepted “I was wrong”, felt deep guilt and internally apologized to him.
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About 11 years ago – the water / injured child incident
- You were travelling in a car, drinking water at a signal.
- A poor lady with an injured child in her arms was asking for water.
- You did not notice properly; before you could react, the signal turned green and the car moved.
- Someone from behind told you she had an injured child.
- You felt deep regret, sorrow, and pain for the child and for not giving water.
- As self‑punishment, you decided not to drink water the entire next day.
- You tried to keep this dharna till evening but could not control thirst and drank water.
- At that time you had only a little Jain dharma knowledge.
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About 10–11 years ago – starting real interest in Jain dharma
- You began going to Sunday pratikraman class and learning sutras.
- One day your mother told you “Jain dharma is the only true religion.”
- You immediately accepted this in your heart.
- She taught you about Kālchakra (time-cycles). You developed genuine interest in religion.
Shortly after that:
- You asked: “Will all jīvas in saṃsār attain moksha?”
- She answered: No. Some jīvas are Abhavi / Abhavya jīvas who will never attain moksha and wander eternally.
- You became extremely sad on hearing this.
- The same day, two questions arose in your mind:
Within a few days:
- About 3 days later, a strong desire arose to become a Tirthankar.
- You felt immense karuṇā (compassion) for all beings:
- You started having dīkshā-bhāva (desire for renunciation).
- You started doing Tikutoika / Guru Vandana 108 times daily.
- You continued this for almost 6 months, then left it due to laziness.
- All this time, your devotion was:
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About 9 years ago – teacher beating & violent revenge thoughts
- Around 9 years back, a teacher beat you in class.
- After this, you developed intense anger and animosity towards her.
- You repeatedly imagined killing her brutally:
- These violent images and desires stayed for about 6 years, very intense initially.
- About 3 years ago, you mentally apologized to her and sought forgiveness.
- Since then, those thoughts reduced.
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In the last few years – anger with elder family member
- You have an elder family member who often scolds you harshly.
- Earlier you used to reply with equal or more anger.
- Once, you replied so harshly that another relative started crying seeing your anger.
- A few minutes later, you felt deep guilt and regret, went downstairs, cried, and apologized.
- Over the past few years:
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About 2 years ago – teacher scolding & silent anger
- Around 2 years back, a teacher scolded you very harshly.
- At that time you remained silent and did not reply.
- But even now, when you remember it, your ego and anger flare up:
- You try to calm yourself, mentally apologize, but that feeling of “I should have replied” keeps coming.
- You feel you can suppress anger but not fully destroy it yet.
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Last 2 years – Guru Vandana again & very bad intrusive thoughts
- Two years back, you again started doing Guru Vandana / religious practices.
- When you get deeply absorbed in:
- Suddenly you get very bad, unwanted thoughts:
- You do not want these thoughts; they come against your wish.
- As soon as they come:
- These thoughts have troubled you for around two years:
- You are terrified that such thoughts will prolong your saṃsār infinitely or bind terrible karma.
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About 3 months ago – shopkeeper’s death & deep vairāgya
- You regularly visited a shop. Opposite to it another uncle had a shop.
- One day you saw his death poster.
- You felt deeply shaken:
- You cried thinking about saṃsār: birth–death, ant, spider, leaf, human, again and again.
- A powerful thought arose:
- You developed:
- You felt that your old dīkshā-bhāva from about 10 years ago had now sprouted again.
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2. “What is all this? Do I have Samyaktva?”
Let us answer this through clear Jain principles.
2.1. What is Samyaktva in Jain dharma?
In simple language:
- Samyaktva = Samyak Darshan + Samyak Jñān + Samyak Charitra (to some extent).
- It begins with Samyak Darshan:
Signs (in very simple form) of Samyak Darshan‑bhāva:
- Deep Shraddhā in Arihant, Siddha, Āchārya, Upādhyāy, Sādhu.
- No inner doubt that the Jain path is right.
- Pain when hearing about disrespect or harm to Tirthankars or saints.
- Samvega – feeling of:
- “Saṃsār is full of suffering; I want moksha.”
- Karuṇā for all jīvas.
- Natural attraction toward:
- Pratikraman, - Swādhyāy, - Penance, - Dīkshā‑bhāva.
But remember: Samyaktva does not mean instant destruction of all anger, pride, deceit, greed. There are types:
- Kshayopasham Samyaktva / Upashamik Samyaktva – right faith along with still‑strong passions.
- Kshayik Samyaktva – perfect right faith with almost no kashāyas; very high stage.
Most shravaks, even good sādhus, are struggling at the kshayopasham level, not the perfect one.
You can read a simple explanation of Samyaktva here: “what is samyaktva and how can one achieve it?”
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2.2. Are your bad incidents proof that you cannot have Samyaktva?
No.
From Jain viewpoint, having Samyaktva does not mean:
- You will never get angry,
- You will never have bad thoughts,
- You will never make big mistakes.
What matters is:
- Do you approve of wrong behaviour in your heart?
- Do you repeatedly enjoy and encourage violent / hateful thoughts?
- Or do you feel regret, pain, and do pratikraman?
Look at your own pattern:
- You damaged the board, lied, and then held hatred.
- You had cruel revenge thoughts toward your teacher for years.
- You shouted at your elder relative harshly.
- You got selfish at the signal and missed giving water.
This is the very difference between:
- A mithyādrishti (totally wrong‑view) person – who feels justified in anger and violence, with no real remorse.
- A person leaning strongly towards samyaktva – who quickly feels inner pratikraman‑bhāva.
So your mistakes do not disprove Samyaktva. They only show:
- Your kashāyas (anger, ego) are still strong,
- But your conscience, shraddhā, and repentance are also strong.
This combination is very typical of a soul in early spiritual awakening.
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2.3. About Abhavya / Abhavi jīva – are you one?
Jain dharma accepts that:
- Some jīvas are Abhavya – they will never attain moksha.
- We normal beings cannot know who is Bhavya or Abhavya. Only Kevali knows.
But the symptoms of an Abhavya jīva are:
- No real interest in true dharma,
- No pain for saṃsār,
- No respect for Tirthankars,
- Often ridicules or opposes dharma.
Now compare with you:
- You cried thinking about Abhavya jīvas – this is high level of karuṇā and dharmic sensitivity.
- You strongly believe “Jain dharma is the only true path”.
- You have faith in Panch Parmeshti only.
- You feel pain when bad thoughts come against Tirthankars and sādhus.
- You do Vosirāmi, Michhami Dukkadam, Alochana, etc.
- You have deeply desired moksha and even Tirthankar‑bhāva.
- You have dīkshā‑bhāva again and again over many years.
These are the exact opposite of Abhavya‑lakṣaṇas.
From Jain logic: A person who:
- loves Bhagwān,
- feels samvega for saṃsār,
- repents for sins,
- wishes moksha for all,
is very, very unlikely to be Abhavya.
We still cannot declare with certainty (only Kevali can), but your bhāvas are clearly Bhavya‑prakār.
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2.4. Your fear: “If I am Samyagdrishti, can I have such cruel thoughts?”
Let’s examine two sets of thoughts separately.
(A) Long‑term revenge/thoughts of killing the teacher (for about 6 years)
- These were willed, repeated, and associated with strong anger.
- From karma view, such sustained violent intention definitely binds heavy paap, especially Anantānubandhi krodh / mān type passions.
- But:
So:
- Yes, it is a serious spiritual fault.
- But it is not proof that you can never have Samyaktva.
- Many souls with Samyaktva in kshayopasham stage may still, because of old karmas, occasionally slip into very bad bhāvas – but then they wake up, repent, and improve.
(B) Sudden intrusive violent thoughts against Tirthankars, sādhus, all beings
Important difference:
- These thoughts come exactly when you are doing dharma – pūjā, Guru Vandana, remembering Bhagwān.
- They are:
- Your immediate response:
In Jain terms, bhāva (inner consent) is crucial.
- If a thought comes like a wave but you do not accept it,
Many Jain texts mention:
- During Samayik, Pooja, Dhyan, asubha bhāvas (impure thoughts) can arise because of:
The right response is exactly what you are already doing:
- Do not identify with the thought.
- Firmly think:
- Do Namokar mantra, pratikraman, and bring mind back to Bhagwān’s gunas.
- Do not over‑fear that “Now my sansār is infinite.”
So, yes: a person near or in Samyak Darshan can have such passing thoughts. What shows your level is your reaction: pain, rejection, repentance.
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2.5. Does just thinking of killing someone bind Nikachit karma?
From Jain karma theory:
- Nikachit karma = the tightest, compulsory karmas whose result must be suffered; cannot be avoided, only experienced.
- But not every bad thought becomes Nikachit.
Nikachit‑bandh normally arises with:
- Very intense,
- Repeated,
- Pleasurable or approved violence / cruelty,
- Often supported by actual violent actions.
Your case:
- Teacher‑killing fantasies were serious and harmful bhāva, but:
Such repentance and change in bhāva can:
- Reduce duration and intensity of bound karmas,
- Even change their nature.
So:
- We cannot say you definitely did Nikachit‑bandh.
- More likely, you bound strong pāp karmas, but your later pratikraman and inner change have already softened a lot of that.
You can understand Nikachit karma more here: “Understanding the theory of Karma”
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2.6. Your strong samvega and karuṇā
Look at these features:
- You cried for Abhavya jīvas.
- You cried seeing the death poster and understanding uselessness of money‑chase.
- You felt:
- You wanted to become Tirthankar to:
This is exactly:
- Samvega – deep shock at saṃsār,
- Nirveda / Vairāgya – detachment from worldly race,
- Karuṇā – compassion for all jīvas.
These bhāvas are very high spiritually. They do not arise in a totally mithyādrishti soul.
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2.7. So, do you have Samyaktva?
With full honesty:
- Only a Kevali Jñāni or very high‑level saint can say definitely whether a particular jīva has attained Samyak Darshan at a given moment.
- I cannot give you a final verdict like “Yes, 100% you are Samyagdrishti right now.”
But, based on Jain principles and the signs you have described:
- Your deep, unwavering faith in:
- Panch Parmeshti, - Jain dharma as the true path.
- Your pain at the idea of:
- jīvas never attaining moksha, - harming Tirthankar Bhagwān and sādhus (even in thought).
- Your strong samvega and vairāgya about saṃsār.
- Your pratikraman‑bhāva:
- Regret for friendship break, - Regret for anger at elder, - Regret for cruel thoughts about teacher, - Immediate repentance for intrusive violent thoughts.
- Your dīkshā‑bhāva and Tirthankar‑bhāva for many years.
All these strongly indicate:
- You are Bhavya jīva.
- You are very close to, or already touched, Samyak Darshan‑bhāva at least once in this life.
- Your problem is not lack of right faith, but:
So rather than thinking:
> “Because I have bad thoughts, I cannot be samyagdrishti,”
it is more accurate to think:
> “Because my soul’s nature is pure and inclined to samyaktva, these old karmas are now coming out. > My work is to see, repent, and rise above them, not to lose faith.”
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3. What should you practically do now?
3.1. Regarding past incidents (friend, teachers, elder)
- Inner forgiveness (Kshamā Bhāvanā)
- Visualize each person: - Your old friend, - His grandmother, - The teachers who beat or scolded you, - The elder relative. - From your heart say: - “I forgive you for whatever you did to me, knowingly or unknowingly.” - “Please forgive me for all the harm I did to you in thoughts, words, or actions.” - Do this daily for some weeks.
- If practical & safe:
- Consider reconnecting or at least sending a message to that old friend: - Admitting your mistake, - Asking forgiveness. - This is not compulsory, but it can be deeply purifying.
- When memories come and anger rises:
- Immediately shift to Namokar Mantra or Logassa. - Remind yourself: - “By holding anger, I drink poison. Let me free both of us.”
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3.2. For intrusive violent thoughts during worship
- Do not be terrified by their presence.
- See them as: - “Old karmic dust coming up as I clean my soul.”
- Do exactly what you do – but more gently:
- Say “Vosirāmi, Michhami Dukkadam.” - Recite Namokar mantra slowly with meaning. - Re‑focus on Bhagwān’s qualities: vitarāg, sarvajña, daya‑sindhu.
- Avoid over‑punishing yourself mentally:
- Too much self‑hatred is also a form of moha and dvesha towards oneself.
- Keep a regular Samayik / Pratikraman:
- Even 12–20 minutes of quiet self‑observation and Alochana each day.
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3.3. For anger and ego in day‑to‑day life
- Before reaction, make a simple inner vow:
- “When anger arises, I will pause for 3 breaths before speaking.”
- After any angry outburst:
- Do aloyana that same day – - Recall the incident clearly, - Accept your fault, - Form a small practical resolve: - e.g., “Next time, I will at least keep my volume low,” - or, “I will walk away from the room instead of shouting.”
- Understand:
- Slow reduction of kashāyas is normal. - Even repeated failures, if followed by honest pratikraman, slowly weaken karma.
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3.4. About fear of “infinite extension of saṃsār”
- Saṃsār is beginningless, but not helplessly endless.
- It ends when:
- What keeps it long is:
In your case:
- You do believe in the true path.
- You do repent and feel pain for sins.
- You are actively reducing rāg‑dvesha, even though slowly.
So your current efforts are shortening, not lengthening, your saṃsār.
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4. Summing up in simple words
- Your heart is very sensitive and dharmic.
- You have made serious mistakes in anger, ego, and thoughts – but you know they are wrong and repent sincerely.
- You have:
All this is strong indication of Bhavya jīva and Samyaktva‑bhāva, at least at some point in this life.
Your task now is:
- Strengthen right faith through:
- Gradually reduce anger, ego, and fear, by:
Do not keep asking yourself with fear, “Am I Abhavya? Do I have Samyaktva?” Instead, live the qualities of Samyaktva every day:
- Shraddhā in Tirthankars,
- Ahimsā in thought, word, deed,
- Satya, kshamā, karuṇā, and regular repentance.
By doing this, whatever Samyaktva‑seed is already present in you will surely grow.