Im not saying that matang vansh migrated to Deccan plateau to protect 3 jain idols, im saying they migrated as a logical fact due to cast ridgid in northern side and it is clearly mention they were living in forests due to Vidhyadhara and lived with neigh
You are right about one important thing: what you have written is a logical reconstruction, not something directly attested in Jain scriptures or standard Jain historical granths.
From the Jain-dharma point of view, a few clear distinctions are helpful:
- What is in āgamas / granths / tirth–vaibhav literature
- Our scriptures and traditional Jain histories do talk about: - Matang / aboriginal tribes (e.g., in stories like Mātangpati etc.) - Outcaste groups living in forests or on the margins of caste society - Destruction of tirths, shifting of idols, and Jains sometimes hiding mūrtis during invasions. - But I am not aware of any accepted Jain textual source that clearly says: - “Matang vaṃsh migrated from north to Deccan specifically to protect 3 Jain idols from Manipur,” - or that they “adopted another religion, buried the idols in Mana village, and took up rope making” as a recorded Jain historical event.
- What you are doing: historical inference
- You are combining: - Known social facts: caste rigidity in the north, tribes called “outcaste”, people living in forests, occupational stigma (like rope-making). - Known Jain patterns: Jains migrating to preserve practice, idols being shifted/hidden when tirths were destroyed. - From these, you are building a possible narrative: - “They must have moved south to keep practicing Jainism,” - “Some settled where the three idols were,” - “To survive, they adopted another religion outwardly and buried the idols,” - “Occupational changes again made them outcast.” - As logical storytelling, this is coherent. But from the strict Jain-pramāṇ point of view, it is kalpanā (hypothesis), not śrut / itihās (attested tradition).
- How Jain tradition usually treats such narratives
- In Jainism, we differentiate: - Srut-pramāṇ / granth-pramāṇ – based on scriptures and well-accepted Jain historical works. - Loka-prasiddhi / sthānīya-vārtā / oral tradition – local stories, family or community narratives. - Tarka / yukti – logical possibilities or reconstructions. - Your version falls in the third category: yukti-based reconstruction. - As long as you clearly say: “This is not written in scripture; it is my logical understanding based on social context and oral hints,” then you are being honest and not mixing it with śāstrīya satya.
- Jain-dharmic caution
- Jains are encouraged to be very careful before stating: “This happened because of Jain dharma” or “They did this to protect Jain idols,” unless we have: - Firm textual evidence, - Or a strong, continuous community tradition accepted by Jain scholars. - Otherwise, it is safer to say: - “It could have happened like this, given what we know about caste, tribes, and tirth-destructions,” - but not “This definitely happened.”
- What you can confidently say
You can reasonably state: - Matang / similar tribes were often treated as outcast and lived in forests. - Strict caste systems pushed many groups to the margins, both in the north and in the Deccan. - Jains historically have: - Migrated to new regions to preserve practice, - Hidden or moved idols when tirths were attacked, - Sometimes blended outwardly with the local majority for survival. - Rope-making and similar manual trades often became markers of “low status” in caste society.
Beyond this, connecting one specific community + one specific village + three specific idols + exact migration route and motive is your hypothesis, not established Jain-history.
So, from a Jain-dharma purity standpoint:
- It is fine to present this as a possible, logical story of how things might have unfolded.
- It is not correct to present it as “Jain scripture-based fact” or “Jain historical consensus”.
- Keeping that line clear respects both Jain pramāṇ and your own reasoning.
If you want to read general Jain stories where Matang/tribal communities and social status are discussed (not this specific migration theory, but the broader background), you can see one such story here: Abhaykumar and Matangpati