without brain and scientific way you can't test anything even direct experience part of scientific. Stop saying lies about soul , rebirth and other set of jargon.
In Jain Dharma, belief in soul and rebirth is not asked on blind faith, but also not limited to laboratory‑style science.
A few clear points from the Jain side:
- Jainism does not reject “testing”
- Jain philosophy accepts pramāṇa (means of knowing): 1) direct experience (pratyakṣa), 2) inference / logic (anumāna), 3) testimony of trustworthy enlightened beings (āgama). - “Direct experience” here does not mean only what instruments can measure, but the inner experience of consciousness when it becomes clear, detached and steady.
- Why modern science cannot fully “test” soul
- Science, as normally practiced today, studies material, measurable things. - In Jain view, jīva (soul) is non‑material, known by its qualities: knowledge, perception, bliss, energy. It is grasped by consciousness itself, not by material instruments. - So Jain acharyas would say: physics or biology are powerful, but by design they talk only about matter (ajīva), not about the conscious knower (jīva).
- Is Jainism “lying” about soul and rebirth?
- From Jain standpoint, it is not a lie, it is a different kind of evidence: - Long, consistent scriptural tradition. - Logical explanation of karmic cause–effect behind why beings with similar bodies have very different experiences, tendencies, and destinies. - Experiences of highly purified souls (Kevalis), whose inner knowledge is accepted as a top pramāṇa (keval‑jñāna). - You are completely free to say, “I don’t accept that type of evidence.” Jain Dharma only says: do not stop inquiry at matter only; also examine the experiencer.
- Scientific attitude vs. materialism
- A truly scientific attitude is: “I will honestly observe, test, and stay open when new kinds of evidence appear.” - Materialism says: “Only matter exists; if it can’t be measured physically, it’s meaningless.” - Jainism is comfortable with the first attitude, but disagrees with the second. It invites experiment in: - Self‑observation (swādhyāy, dhyān, samayik), - Reduction of passions (anger, pride, deceit, greed), - Watching how clarity, peace, and detachment grow when inner impurities reduce.
- What you can test practically
Even if you reject rebirth for now, you can still “test” Jain principles: - Try ahimsā, aparigraha, truthfulness, see what they do to your mind. - Try a period of samayik / meditation with focus on being a detached knower‑seer. Notice changes in: - reactivity, - clarity, - sense of inner freedom. - Jainism claims: as inner purity increases, awareness of yourself as something deeper than body‑brain slowly becomes self‑evident.
If, based on your criteria, you still say “I don’t accept soul, karma, or rebirth,” that is your choice. Jain Dharma’s role is simply to present its path clearly and invite inner experiment, not to force belief.
For a simple Jain explanation of ātma (soul) and rebirth, you can read more here: about ātmā about rebirth and yonis