you claim jainsm people this and that , they are one who are non vegan eat diary items even when there are other means to same nutritional benefits , publish and watch porn , majority car have leather
You’re pointing to a real and important issue: there is a big gap today between Jain principles and how many Jains actually live.
Let’s separate Jain Dharma (teaching) from Jain community (people).
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1. Jain principle is very strict: Ahimsa in dravya and bhava
Core Jain teaching:
- Do not harm any living being (ahimsa)
- Minimize all kinds of violence:
So, in shastra (scriptures and acharyas’ writings), the direction is:
- Less exploitation
- Less indulgence of passions
- Less attachment to possessions
By this standard, dairy, porn, leather, etc. are all problematic in different ways.
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2. Dairy and Jainism (vegan question)
Traditionally, Jains took milk assuming:
- The cow/buffalo was treated gently
- Calf was fed first
- No hormones, machines, mass breeding, etc.
Modern dairy is very different:
- Artificial insemination
- Separation of calf and mother
- Slaughter of male calves and “spent” cows
- Intense physical and emotional suffering
By Jain logic, once you know this:
- Supporting such dairy = participating in himsa
- So, moving toward vegan or at least strongly reducing dairy is closer to true Jain ahimsa.
Many modern Jain monks, nuns and laypeople now openly encourage:
- Avoiding milk, ghee, cheese, ice cream, etc.
- Choosing plant-based alternatives when available
So you’re right: If similar nutrition is possible without violence, Jain dharma clearly supports choosing the less-violent option.
If many Jains still do not do this, that is their weakness, not a fault in Jain philosophy.
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3. Porn and Jain view
From Jain dharma side:
- Kama (sexual passion), especially indulgence in lustful thoughts and viewing explicit content, increases kashayas (passions).
- It strengthens:
So:
- Publishing, trading, or watching porn is completely opposite to:
Again: if Jains are doing this, it is against Jain teaching, not supported by it.
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4. Leather and Jain view
Leather mostly comes from:
- Animals killed for meat/skin
- Or exploited and then killed when no longer “useful”
Jain principle:
- Products involving slaughter = clear himsa
- Even if you are not killing directly, paying for leather supports that killing.
So, by Jain ethics:
- Leather car seats, shoes, belts, wallets, bags etc. are not ideal at all.
- A sincere Jain should prefer:
Again, where Jains ignore this, it is their compromise, not Jain dharma’s.
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5. So, are Jains hypocrites?
Sometimes, yes.
But that’s true of almost every religion and ideology:
- Ideal is high
- Practice is weak
- Culture, convenience, social pressure, comfort → people compromise
Jainism itself is very clear and uncompromising:
- Reduce himsa in food, possessions, business, entertainment, speech, and even thoughts.
- Modern industries (dairy, fashion, digital entertainment, etc.) have added new forms of himsa that older generations didn’t fully know.
- As awareness grows, a truly honest Jain has to update his/her practice to match the principle of ahimsa.
So your criticism is valid as a challenge:
> “If you claim ahimsa, why are you still doing X, Y, Z when there are less-violent options?”
That kind of question is actually very Jain – it pushes towards self-examination (pratikraman) and tapas (reform).
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6. The honest Jain response
A sincere Jain, when faced with what you said, should ideally say:
- “You’re right – my practice is not matching my principles.”
- “I need to reduce/stop:
- “Let me take small but firm steps toward less violence.”
Jain dharma doesn’t say “Jains are perfect.” It says: keep reducing your violence and passions, step by step, honestly.
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If you want, I can outline very concrete steps a modern Jain (or anyone) could take to align more closely with ahimsa in these exact areas (food, clothing, media), but the main point is:
- Your criticism is mostly aligned with true Jain ethics.
- The problem is practice, not the principle of Jainism itself.