when you say this "this happens because the soul is bound by very deep and long-standing deluding karma and worldly attachment" that means this caused the abhavya jiv to be that way, that means it must've had a different state before this right
Answer
No — in Jain understanding, it does not mean the abhavya jīva had some earlier “better” state and then later became abhavya in a simple before-and-after sense.Explanation
When we say, “the soul is bound by very deep and long-standing deluding karma and worldly attachment,” that is a way of explaining the present condition of the soul in saṁsāra.For an abhavya jīva:
- Its condition is understood as beginningless in saṁsāra.
- Jain philosophy does not describe it as first being bhavya and then later becoming abhavya due to one event.
- Rather, its state is the result of endless karmic bondage and its own karmic nature.
So the idea is not:
- “It used to be different, and then changed once.”
It is more like:
- “From the standpoint of worldly existence, the soul has been under karma without a beginning, and this is why it does not have the capacity for liberation.”
Spiritual Understanding
This teaching shows an important Jain principle:- No soul is created by a first cause in time.
- Saṁsāra is beginningless.
- The soul’s present condition is explained by karma, not by a single past event we can point to.
For bhavya and abhavya, Jain tradition treats this as a deep spiritual classification connected with the soul’s karmic condition and capacity, not as a simple historical transformation from one fixed stage to another.