why do they say we rejected vedas ? If they were early on then they wouldn't have said it right?
Answer
In Jain tradition, Jains are said to have “rejected the Vedas” mainly because Jain Dharma does not accept the Vedas as the supreme or final spiritual authority.
This does not mean Jains rejected all truth, morality, or spirituality found in other traditions. It means Jain Dharma follows its own independent path based on the teachings of the Tirthankars, especially Lord Mahavir in the present era.
Explanation
The phrase “rejected the Vedas” is often used from the viewpoint of later Brahmanical/Hindu classification.
Traditionally, Indian philosophies were sometimes divided into:
- Āstika – those that accept the authority of the Vedas
- Nāstika – those that do not accept the authority of the Vedas
By that definition, Jainism is called Nāstika, not because it denies soul, karma, rebirth, or liberation, but because it does not treat the Vedas as the final source of truth.
Jain Dharma accepts:
- Jiva – soul
- Karma – subtle karmic bondage
- Punarjanma – rebirth
- Moksha – liberation
- Ahimsa – non-violence as the highest dharma
- Tirthankars – enlightened teachers who show the path to liberation
So “Nāstika” in this context does not mean atheist in the modern sense. It means “non-Vedic” or “not accepting Vedic authority.”
About Your Question: “If Jains were early on, they wouldn’t have said it, right?”
That is a thoughtful point.
In the earliest period, Jain Dharma presents itself not as a reaction against the Vedas, but as an independent eternal path taught by the Tirthankars.
From the Jain viewpoint:
- Jain Dharma is not founded by rejecting the Vedas.
- It is based on the eternal truths taught by the Tirthankars.
- The emphasis is on right faith, right knowledge, and right conduct.
The language of “rejecting the Vedas” likely became prominent when different Indian traditions were being compared and classified. From the Jain side, the issue is not “we are against the Vedas,” but rather:
- Truth is known through the omniscient Jinas.
- Liberation comes through purification of the soul.
- Violence, attachment, and ignorance must be overcome.
- No scripture is accepted merely because of social authority or ritual status.
Spiritual Understanding
Jain Dharma respects spiritual seeking, but it does not accept any teaching that supports violence, attachment, or ritualism as a path to liberation.
The Jain focus is:
- Ahimsa
- Aparigraha
- Self-discipline
- Karma purification
- Realization of the soul
So the difference is about authority and path, not about hatred or disrespect.
Takeaway
Jains are called “rejecters of the Vedas” because Jain Dharma does not accept Vedic authority as final. But from the Jain perspective, Jain Dharma is not merely a rejection of something else; it is an independent path of the Jinas, centered on ahimsa, karma purification, and liberation of the soul.