When I'm too much indulged in religious thoughts or actions, I get very bad thoughts about harming Tirthankar bhagwan, causing dukh to sadhus or killing sadhus etc, which I do not want. I just get these thoughts which derails me although as soon as I get
What you are describing is actually very common on the path of dharma, and Jain āgams explain it in a very simple way.
1. Why do such cruel thoughts come especially during religious activities?
From Jain viewpoint, there are a few main reasons:
- Old karmic stock (purva sañchit karma)
- Whatever thoughts, images, and tendencies come in the mind are the uday (fruition) of previously bound karma. - When we turn towards dharma (pūjā, samayik, pratikraman, Tirthankar-bhakti), stronger karmas start getting shaken and come out as strange, sometimes very opposite-type thoughts.
- Mind always moves to extremes and opposites
- When you deeply respect Tirthankars and sadhus, sometimes the mind suddenly throws the exact opposite picture – of hurting them, insulting them etc. - Jain acharyas call this kind of inner disturbance a form of vyavadhān (inner obstruction), which is actually a sign that some mohaniya karma is breaking.
- Thought is not equal to action
- In Jainism, there is clear difference between: - vichār / kalpanā – a passing thought - bhāva / ichchhā – inner willingness, approval and enjoyment of that thought - kriyā – action through body, speech, mind with involvement - Paap binds strongly when there is ichchhā + anubhav (enjoyment). - In your case, the moment such thoughts arise, you feel fear, pain and regret – that itself shows you do not approve of them. So karmic bondage is much lighter, and your regret is actually working as prāyaścitta.
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2. What is happening spiritually when you say “Vosirāmi, Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ, Aloye Aloyam”?
You are doing exactly what Jain dharma teaches:
- Ālochana (confession):
- Pratikraman (returning from the fault):
- Pratyākhyān (resolve):
This breaks the intensity of karmic bondage and slowly purifies the inner tendencies.
You can read a simple explanation of pratikraman here
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3. Are these thoughts a big sin?
Look at it step by step from Jain drishti:
- They arise suddenly, without your wish.
- This is mainly uday of past karma + habits of mind, not present conscious choice.
- You feel disturbed and immediately repent.
- This shows samyak bhāva (right attitude) is present. - Because of your shraddhā in Tirthankars and sadhus, you feel pain even at the thought of hurting them. This is a good sign, not a bad one.
- You do pratikraman right away.
- This converts that moment into punya-bhāva (good inner state). - Acharyas say: dosh ko dosh mān lena hi bādī upāsanā hai – accepting one’s fault itself is great worship.
So, do not label yourself as cruel. The thought is cruel, but you are not. Your real self (ātmā) is pure; these are just passing clouds of karma over the mind.
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4. How to deal with such thoughts in practice?
Here is a very simple Jain-based way:
- Do not fight the thought, just see it.
- When it comes, calmly say inside: “Yeh sirf purva karma ka uday hai, yeh mera svarūp nahi hai.” - Seeing it as separate from the soul weakens it.
- Immediately do short bhāva-pratikraman:
- “Hey Tirthankar Bhagwan, main aise bhāvon se sharminda hoon. Michchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ. Aage aise bhāv na aaye, mujhe saiyam-bala dena.” - Keep it short, heartfelt, and without fear.
- Replace the image with śubha-bhāva:
- For a few breaths, visualize yourself doing vandan, serving sadhus, or simply recite Namokār Mantra slowly with attention. - Mind cannot hold two opposite pictures strongly at the same time; gently give it a dhārmik alternative.
- Do not keep checking: “Will it come again?”
- Constant checking itself keeps the track alive. - Just continue your pūjā / pāṭh as if a fly came and went.
- Strengthen positive bhāv in general:
- Daily maitrī-bhāvanā: “Sab jīv mere mitra hain, main sabka kalyāṇ chāhtā hoon.” - Regular samayik and pratikraman (even short versions) help make the mind sattvik and quiet.
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5. A gentle reminder about health
Sometimes the mind can become over-tired, anxious or obsessive, so unwanted thoughts feel stronger and more frequent. Jain dharma also teaches care of body and mind as important for sādhanā:
- Proper sleep, balanced routine, not overstraining in one go.
- If these thoughts:
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6. The essence
- Such thoughts are mostly old karmic dust coming out, not your true nature.
- Your immediate regret, vo-sirāmi, Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ, Aloye Aloyam show a clear, soft, dhārmik heart.
- Continue:
Over time, with sincere but calm effort, these thoughts reduce in frequency and power, and the mind becomes more shānt and pavitra.