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  • When I'm too much indulged in religious thoughts or actions, I get very bad thoughts about harming Tirthankar bhagwan, causing dukh to sadhus or killing sadhus etc, which I do not want. I just get these thoughts which derails me although as soon as I get
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    When I'm too much indulged in religious thoughts or actions, I get very bad thoughts about harming Tirthankar bhagwan, causing dukh to sadhus or killing sadhus etc, which I do not want. I just get these thoughts which derails me although as soon as I get

    8 months ago 71

    What you are describing is actually very common on the path of dharma, and Jain āgams explain it in a very simple way.

    1. Why do such cruel thoughts come especially during religious activities?

    From Jain viewpoint, there are a few main reasons:

    1. Old karmic stock (purva sañchit karma)

    - Whatever thoughts, images, and tendencies come in the mind are the uday (fruition) of previously bound karma. - When we turn towards dharma (pūjā, samayik, pratikraman, Tirthankar-bhakti), stronger karmas start getting shaken and come out as strange, sometimes very opposite-type thoughts.

    1. Mind always moves to extremes and opposites

    - When you deeply respect Tirthankars and sadhus, sometimes the mind suddenly throws the exact opposite picture – of hurting them, insulting them etc. - Jain acharyas call this kind of inner disturbance a form of vyavadhān (inner obstruction), which is actually a sign that some mohaniya karma is breaking.

    1. Thought is not equal to action

    - In Jainism, there is clear difference between: - vichār / kalpanā – a passing thought - bhāva / ichchhā – inner willingness, approval and enjoyment of that thought - kriyā – action through body, speech, mind with involvement - Paap binds strongly when there is ichchhā + anubhav (enjoyment). - In your case, the moment such thoughts arise, you feel fear, pain and regret – that itself shows you do not approve of them. So karmic bondage is much lighter, and your regret is actually working as prāyaścitta.

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    2. What is happening spiritually when you say “Vosirāmi, Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ, Aloye Aloyam”?

    You are doing exactly what Jain dharma teaches:

    • Ālochana (confession):
    “I got such a thought, this is my fault.”
    • Pratikraman (returning from the fault):
    “Vosirāmi / Michchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ” – I repent and turn back.
    • Pratyākhyān (resolve):
    “I do not want to repeat this; I don’t want such bhāva again.”

    This breaks the intensity of karmic bondage and slowly purifies the inner tendencies.

    You can read a simple explanation of pratikraman here

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    3. Are these thoughts a big sin?

    Look at it step by step from Jain drishti:

    1. They arise suddenly, without your wish.

    - This is mainly uday of past karma + habits of mind, not present conscious choice.

    1. You feel disturbed and immediately repent.

    - This shows samyak bhāva (right attitude) is present. - Because of your shraddhā in Tirthankars and sadhus, you feel pain even at the thought of hurting them. This is a good sign, not a bad one.

    1. You do pratikraman right away.

    - This converts that moment into punya-bhāva (good inner state). - Acharyas say: dosh ko dosh mān lena hi bādī upāsanā hai – accepting one’s fault itself is great worship.

    So, do not label yourself as cruel. The thought is cruel, but you are not. Your real self (ātmā) is pure; these are just passing clouds of karma over the mind.

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    4. How to deal with such thoughts in practice?

    Here is a very simple Jain-based way:

    1. Do not fight the thought, just see it.

    - When it comes, calmly say inside: “Yeh sirf purva karma ka uday hai, yeh mera svarūp nahi hai.” - Seeing it as separate from the soul weakens it.

    1. Immediately do short bhāva-pratikraman:

    - “Hey Tirthankar Bhagwan, main aise bhāvon se sharminda hoon. Michchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ. Aage aise bhāv na aaye, mujhe saiyam-bala dena.” - Keep it short, heartfelt, and without fear.

    1. Replace the image with śubha-bhāva:

    - For a few breaths, visualize yourself doing vandan, serving sadhus, or simply recite Namokār Mantra slowly with attention. - Mind cannot hold two opposite pictures strongly at the same time; gently give it a dhārmik alternative.

    1. Do not keep checking: “Will it come again?”

    - Constant checking itself keeps the track alive. - Just continue your pūjā / pāṭh as if a fly came and went.

    1. Strengthen positive bhāv in general:

    - Daily maitrī-bhāvanā: “Sab jīv mere mitra hain, main sabka kalyāṇ chāhtā hoon.” - Regular samayik and pratikraman (even short versions) help make the mind sattvik and quiet.

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    5. A gentle reminder about health

    Sometimes the mind can become over-tired, anxious or obsessive, so unwanted thoughts feel stronger and more frequent. Jain dharma also teaches care of body and mind as important for sādhanā:

    • Proper sleep, balanced routine, not overstraining in one go.
    • If these thoughts:
    - come almost all the time, - disturb sleep and daily work badly, - or push you towards extreme fear or depression, then quietly consulting a good, ethical doctor or mental-health professional is not against Jain dharma. It is protecting the body-mind as an instrument for sādhanā.

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    6. The essence

    • Such thoughts are mostly old karmic dust coming out, not your true nature.
    • Your immediate regret, vo-sirāmi, Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ, Aloye Aloyam show a clear, soft, dhārmik heart.
    • Continue:
    - gentle pratikraman, - Namokār Mantra, - maitri-bhāv, - and a relaxed, not-over-anxious attitude.

    Over time, with sincere but calm effort, these thoughts reduce in frequency and power, and the mind becomes more shānt and pavitra.

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