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    tell me in detail about the next chouvisi their present birth , any thing i forgot to mention

    7 months ago 158

    In Jain dharma, “next chouvisi” means the next set of 24 Tirthankars in the coming Utsarpini (ascending) half‑cycle of time, after our present Avasarpini is over.

    Let’s go step by step, and also clarify what we do know and what we don’t know from authentic Jain tradition.

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    1. Where are we in time now?

    • Time goes in endless cycles (kālchakra).
    • Each full cycle has two halves:
    - Avasarpini – descending / regressive - Utsarpini – ascending / progressive
    • In every Avasarpini and every Utsarpini there are 24 Tirthankars – this set of 24 is called a chouvīsi. ( jainknowledge.com)

    Right now:

    • We are in the Avasarpini half‑cycle.
    • Our current 24 Tirthankars (from Ādināth to Mahāvīr) are the present chouvīsi.
    • Mahāvīr Swāmī is the 24th and last Tirthankar of this Avasarpini.
    After him, no more Tirthankars will be born in this same Avasarpini. ( jainknowledge.com)

    So the “next chouvīsi” you are asking about is:

    > The 24 Tirthankars who will appear in the next Utsarpini, after this Avasarpini finishes.

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    2. Will there definitely be another 24 Tirthankars?

    Yes.

    • Jain āgams and tradition clearly say:
    - In every Avasarpini = 24 Tirthankars - In every Utsarpini = 24 Tirthankars
    • This goes on forever – infinite past and infinite future cycles, each half‑cycle with exactly 24. ( jainknowledge.com)

    So, there will surely be a next chouvīsi of 24 Tirthankars in the coming Utsarpini.

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    3. What do we know about their present birth/state?

    This is where many people mix imagination with śāstra. We must be very clear:

    (a) General principle – not names

    • Tirthankar‑nāma‑karma is a very rare karmic type.
    • Souls who have bound this karma in previous births will, at the right time in the next Utsarpini,
    take birth as the 24 Tirthankars of that chouvīsi.
    • Scriptures do not give a complete detailed list of:
    - all their present names, - present families, - exact current loka (heaven) for each of those 24 future Tirthankars.

    They only describe the law, not a full “bio‑data” of each future Tirthankar.

    (b) Where are those souls now?

    From Jain cosmology:

    • Before becoming a Tirthankar, the soul generally passes through:
    - many human and heavenly births, performing great austerities, charity, and punya.
    • Just before the Tirthankar birth:
    - the soul is often in a very high heaven (e.g. Mahāśukra, Graiveyak, Anuttar, etc.) and then descends into the mother’s womb. (You can see this pattern for current Tirthankars like Śreyānṣnāth, Arahnāth, Dharmanāth etc.) ( jainknowledge.com)

    By this pattern, we infer that:

    • The souls who will become future 24 Tirthankars of the next chouvīsi are currently:
    - either in very high heavenly states, or - in advanced human births somewhere in the countless regions of the universe.
    • But specific names, places, and exact current locations are not clearly listed in generally‑known canonical texts.

    So, we should not claim exact “present birth” details beyond what śāstra actually supports.

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    4. About the first Tirthankar of the next chouvīsi (sect difference)

    Here Jain traditions differ slightly in name, not in principle.

    Digambar tradition

    • Many Digambar sources mention that in the next Utsarpini,
    the first Tirthankar (i.e. “25th” if you count across cycles) will be named Padmanābh. ( jainknowledge.com)

    Śvetāmbara tradition

    • Some Śvetāmbara references talk of a first future Tirthankar called Mahāpadma (exact details vary).
    • There is no single, completely fixed, universally accepted list of all 24 names of the next chouvīsi in mainstream Śvetāmbara literature. ( jainknowledge.com)

    Common point: Both agree that another full chouvīsi will surely come in the next Utsarpini – only exact personal names can differ in traditional lists.

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    5. Common misunderstanding: “Is Rāvaṇ the next Tirthankar?”

    Sometimes people say, “Rāvaṇ will be our next Tirthankar.” According to Jain dharma, this is wrong:

    • Rāvaṇ is not counted among the 24 Tirthankars of this Avasarpini.
    • Jain texts do not recognize him as a future Tirthankar of any chouvīsi.
    • Saying “Rāvaṇ is our next Tirthankar” goes against Jain śāstra. ( jainknowledge.com)

    So, the next Tirthankars are not figures like Rāvaṇ; they are special souls with Tirthankar‑nāma‑karma as described by Jain cosmology.

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    6. What exactly is not given in detail by scripture?

    From the angle of “tell me in detail about the next chouvīsi, their present birth”:

    Things that are clearly known (and safe to say)

    1. There will be 24 Tirthankars in the next Utsarpini. ( jainknowledge.com)
    2. They will:

    - attain keval‑jñān, - establish Jain saṅgh (sādhu, sādhvī, śrāvak, śrāvikā), - teach the same basic path of samyak‑darśan, samyak‑jñān, samyak‑cāritra.

    1. They are souls who:

    - in past births performed very high tapas, dān, śīl, bhāvnā, - and thus bound Tirthankar‑nāma‑karma.

    1. Many of them will presently be in very high heavens (like current Tirthankars before birth), then descend.

    Things that are not firmly detailed (so we should not invent)

    1. Exact list of all 24 names of the next Utsarpini (some names given in some traditions, but no single list accepted by all).
    2. Exact present birth of each:

    - which heaven? which human city? which parents’ names?

    1. Detailed life‑stories like we have for Ādināth, Śāntināth, Mahāvīr, etc.

    Such full details simply are not provided in commonly‑accepted core texts; so a Jain should remain within śāstra‑maryādā and avoid guesswork.

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    7. Essence for your understanding

    • Yes, there will be a next chouvīsi of 24 Tirthankars in the future Utsarpini.
    • Their present state:
    - they are jīvas who have already or will soon bind Tirthankar‑nāma‑karma, - most are/will be in high heavens or advanced human births, - but śāstra does not give a precise “profile” of each one.
    • No more Tirthankars will come now in our Avasarpini after Mahāvīr Swāmī.
    • Names like Padmanābh / Mahāpadma are mentioned for the first of the next chouvīsi, with small Digambar–Śvetāmbara variation, but:
    - there is no universally fixed, detailed list of all 24 future Tirthankars.

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    8. For further simple reading

    You can read more on these related topics here:

    • “Who is a Tirthankar?”
    • “How Aadeshwar Dada became our first Tirthankar?” (shows the typical pattern of a Tirthankar’s last few births)
    • Short Q&A on future Tirthankars and upcoming Tirthankar names:

    This is as much as can be said faithfully to Jain śāstra about the next chouvīsi and their present state, without adding personal imagination.

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